Kat-a-Log

[ducky]

Whats the point? When u have a upturn eye u should Snell the hook, why did the hook manufacturer design this?
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Brock

[katfish]

Here is a picture of a circle hook with an upturned eye.



If a knot is tied on the eye, the upturned eye helps turn the
hookpoint into the fish when the eye clears the mouth.

If the hook is snelled the way the line is going it will defeat the
purpose of the upturned eye and keep the hook from digging in.

To use the upturned eye with a snell you should feed the line
opposite of the way it is fed in this picture and tie your snell.

Tie a hook each way and pull it between your thumb and first
finger by the line. You will see how the eye turns the hook into
your hand as the eye clears the skin of your hand.

Just as the upturned eye curls the hook point, offset eyes will
turn (twist) the hooks during hookset.

Offset points on hooks place the point in a different line than the
rest of the hook. Many tournaments require inline points. Most
extreme of the offset points are true turn hooks.
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Catchabiggun,
Robby

[ducky]

The reason why I ask this is because we use gamakatsu octopus hooks with the upturn eye, we have always just used the polomar knot, our hooking percentage I would say is 85 to 90 percent, if we snelled would we get a even better hooking percentage?
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Brock

[SeanStone]

I literally just found this very same thing out last weekend. I was using a knot-less knot, Ie. the snell. I was using hair rigs for carp fishing with a circle hook. I have read that you are supposed to run the line from the back side of the eye...so I did. I put the line over my thumb and began pulling line. Every time it turned away and did not dig in.

I then switched the sides of the eye to run the snell from the front as shown by Robby, and the hook buried itself every time. I guess you should always try things for yourself before believing everything you hear.
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Sean Stone

[katfish]

Brock

All hooks are designed to be used with knots. The pivot of the knot
allows the offset, upturned or downturned eye to pivot or turn as desired.

For each hook to reach the desired effect of pivotting (upturn or
downturn eye) the mainline must enter from the correct side of the
hook eye. Otherwise it would feed straight through and function
as a straight eyed hook.

As I see it, my snells are stronger than any knots but I must be careful
not to defeat the design built into hooks. The disadvantage of snelling
from the wrong side of the eye would mostly be as you try setting
the hook on a fish swimming straight at you.
That is also most difficult with any hook. Fortunately
this handicap is slight for you and I. The large baits as we hook
them plus the instinct of a flathead to hold a struggling baitfish
will add to our hookup percentage.

In case I haven't explained this clearly, you might want to
read this article from a bass fishing site. It is
embarrassing to admit the baitfishermen might be better at
explaining the hook.

http://www.bassfishingandcatching.com/fish-hooks.html
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Catchabiggun,
Robby